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Sabrina Haake's avatar

Agreed. Economic resistance is our best strategy. We need lists of companies to support, and lists to boycott. Trump can’t control the market, and it’s the surest mirror to reflect the consequences of his draconian nightmare.

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Ed Damota's avatar

Referring to detention centers as anything other than concentration camps is in and of itself obscene.

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ConstanceReader's avatar

We already do, prison labor has been in heavy use since....well....since there have been prisons. Let's not pretend that this is some great new innovation, or something that hasn't been seen since the Soviet gulags. U.S. prisons have always provided de facto slave labor and hardly anyone has ever made a peep about it.

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Gjay15's avatar

You are absolutely correct. We have been using prison labor for decades. Any of us are vulnerable to being incarcerated either in prisons or psychiatric hospitals where the due process is weak because we are only helping these people in the latter category. And we also have the tentacles of probation and parole to keep people vulnerable. This is a return to slavery . And no one is safe. They are using the threat of deportation to a totalitarian regime if as a prisoner, you resist.

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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

Exactly what I was thinking: this is not new. Prisons for debtors were called "work houses." Think of the prisoners in California and (IIRC) other places accept extremely dangerous jobs fighting wildfires in order to shorten their sentences or get parole. I just found this 2017 report that lists hourly rates for prisoners in each state, both for work done within the prison and for work done for state-owned businesses. It's pathetic. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/

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heather liddell's avatar

No time to be silent now. This is everyone's chance, to speak up

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Susan Lionheart's avatar

Hell no!! No concentration camps here!

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Julie Akins's avatar

One thing more on this- with Palantir insiders announcing that the surveillance state is in full bloom combined with the following:

Centralized Digital Bank Currency (government crypto)

What we will have is such hyper control that participants of a protest could literally be shut down: no access to their funds, no ability to communicate and no recourse. Once shut down, your only way back is conscripted labor.

Having a strong digital leash is cheaper and more effective than a physical gulag. Those are for optics and short term to terrify us out of fighting back.

Eventually everyone will do as told in silence or be cut off and forced into “labor without pay” as inmates currently are. If you don’t comply, you’ll have no resources and no one will help you out of fear. Whole families will starve.

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Nadia Sindi's avatar

Late Dave Frohnmayer was the one who started & initiated the fraud of Foreclosed houses & taking over our homes!

Late Rep. Ackerman, UO Prof. Margaret Hallock. Scarlet Lee/Barnhart Asso.. Forged my family’s signature. Gave our fully paid Condo to the thief Broker Bob Ogle, his mom Karen Ogle was working in the USA Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. She administered the power of attorney to have my sister's signature and added her son to the deed. Sold without my signature!

Bob Ackerman had never responded to the Summon from the Court, and the sheriff never served me or arrested him either!!

This is what kind of criminal government we have in Oregon!

Arrest Doug McCool, Broker Bob Ogle, his mom Karen Ogle, Scarlet Lee/Barnhart Associates, UO Prof. Margaret Hallock.

D.A. Doug Harcleroad, D.A. Alex Gardner told me they have NO JURISDICTION on Frohnmayer! Oregon criminal Officials are complicit with these crimes against me!

Both EPD, Lane County Sheriff Dept. and the FBI had been told to step down from investigating the bank robber Rep. Bob Ackerman & the rest of Lane County Criminal Officials are complicit with him!

I ran five times for public offices! Voter Fraud & Sedition by Lane County government to protect & cover up for the two criminals Frohnmayer & Ackerman!!

The Oregon government is complicit with their crimes!!

https://facebook.com/groups/justice4nadiasindi

http://davefrohnmayer.com

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Margaret Redus's avatar

💙💙💙

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Homi Hormasji's avatar

Yes, there's no doubt that the majority of us are decent people. But how much depravity at the highest levels of our government, how much of its cruelty, will it take to rouse us from our stupor?

The budget for ICE, enshrined into law by the criminal Republican sycophants in Congress, is now larger than the entire defense budgets of several other nations. The police state has now been funded. Are we going to sit back and allow slavery as corporate policy?

Thank you, Mark and Steven, for focusing on Timothy Snyder's prescient article.

Rise up, friends! We need to take to the streets in numbers too large for them to subjugate. We have to excise this vile cancer from our body politic if we are to survive.

Take courage: if we are united, the fascists will not be able to stop us.

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Al Draycott's avatar

This slave labor idea comes right out of Nazi Germany and I am sure Stephen Miller has instigated it and has put this idea into the head of the Orange Hemorrhoid' Concentration camp Alligator Auschwitz with three thousand beds sheltered from the 120 degree heat with tents in a area prone to floods and hurricanes. I understand there are approx 300 other detention units already in the US. Owners of farms may get very cheap labor from these concentration camps. If so don't buy their goods. During World War II, more than 20 million people were coerced into performing forced labor for Germany in occupied Europe and in the German Reich. The Germans profited from this exploitation, which by no means took place in secret but out in the open. As in most Nazi camps, conditions in forced labour camps were inadequate. Inmates were only ever seen as temporary, and, in the Nazis view, could always be replaced with others: there was a complete disregard for the health of prisoners. They were subject to insufficiencies of food, equipment, medicine and clothing, whilst working long hours. There was little or no time for rest or breaks. As a result of these conditions, death rates in labor camps were extremely high. Its no secret that the vegetable and fruit farmers are complaining about the shortage of labor I am sure they will purchase workers from the Nazi , fascist administration. Boycott all farms using forced labor.

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sheena williams's avatar

Growing labor shortage and rotten crops in the fields. Sounds like a third world country.

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J Frost's avatar

Looks like we already are! License plates? Chain gang road workers? Alligator alley?

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Susan's avatar
17hEdited

Yes. I’ve seen road workers in my town.

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