A deep state[1] is a type of government made up of potentially secret and unauthorized networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. In popular usage, the term carries overwhelmingly negative connotations and is often associated with conspiracy theories.[. Wikipedia. Sounds like trumps plan.
Well, as a dues-paying subscriber to Deep State Radio, I get the tongue-in-cheekiness of the name, but I don't think it would travel well in, say, Steve Bannon's circles.
WTF is going on at the NYT copy desk that writes these heds and with the editors that approve them?! This isn't journalistic impartiality, it is full-blown MAGA. Why are not the reporters on the staff not revolting against this? Because, to paraphrase the late Alan Sherman, this is pretty revolting itself.
I cancelled my subscription to The NY Times the day after the election and told them exactly why I was doing it. I was tired of the both sidesism and sane washing of Trump’s attempts at messaging. I had held that subscription for over 50 years and was done with them. They tried to offer me a discount and I said I did not trust them any longer and would not even keep the subscription for free. Did the same thing with the Washington Post.
Americans and our leaders allowed Reagan and others to label the public sector as mere "bureaucrats." It's time to reclaim terms like "public servants." When Reagan attacked government, we failed to defend it, unable to admit some inefficiencies while recognizing its value. Trump and MAGA have amplified this decades-long erosion, thriving on chaos and opposition hand-wringing. While some government employees may exemplify inefficiency, the majority are dedicated professionals serving the public good. Let’s counter this narrative by sharing on social media how we’ve benefited from public servants and publicly funded programs, showing the vital role they play in our lives. This also will require leaving our echo chambers.
I gave up on the NYT months ago and canceled my subscription to that paper as well as the WP. I call them corrupt media because they are owned by republican ultra-wealthy who are more interested in staying on Dump’s good side then reporting the TRUTH.
Schedule F doesn't lead to ALL civil service jobs switched to loyalists. Only to those with positions of a "confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character." The wonks who gather the data and review the test results for things like FDA approval will still be protected--but they are a facing a hard choice. Stay and comply with the idiocracy's commands or be brave.
All the NYT headline had to say was "Mythical Deep State" or even just "Alleged Deep State." But unlike what I hope the rank and file of civil servants can do, the NYT doesn't have "be brave" in its vocabulary. It's not going to help them when trump decides something the headline writers thought was safe actually offends him.
That headline, "Trump Takes on the Pillars of the 'Deep State'," was outrageous, even by the abysmally misleading standards of the NYT: it implies that Trump is taking on a noble mission to set things right by cleaning house, when the very opposite is true.
I guess the brief, bright spell before the election, when the paper appeared to have changed course and decided that democracy might be a good thing after all, is over. The NYT is evidently now back to genuflecting before Trump in order to curry favor. Shameful!
Agree that the New York Times using the term , Deep State, in a headline is irresponsible & disturbing. It just gave credibility to Trump & Steve Bannon’s imaginary ‘ deep state’. Something that is purely a figment of their imagination. But they will use that manufactured term to viciously attack the non partisan federal election employees that keep America functioning smoothly.
I’m feeling so dejected! I just hope there are right minded folks in government who will fight against this tyranny and the gutting of all that is good about our country.
I was chastised a little bit by referring to the administrative state. The CORRECT way of interpreting this is the EXECUTIVE branch of gov. Executive branch administers & enforces laws. When all agencies & depts are abolished thru deregulation & privatization, public servants are replaced by loyalists who administer thru corruption. A dictatorship. is created. Ruth Ben-Ghiat describes this. HR2, passed by Ryan's House, intimated destruction of the Pendleton Ac,t, which created Civil Service System.
The "deep state myth" .. are you really so far up your own butt that you cant recognize there are parts of the US government that wield real power outside the conventional checks and balances of the system? The two wealthiest counties in the US are both adjacent to DC and yet neither of these two regions produce anything. They suck off the teat of taxpayers. I, for one, hope Trump gets to burn these unaccountable power structures to the ground.
A deep state[1] is a type of government made up of potentially secret and unauthorized networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. In popular usage, the term carries overwhelmingly negative connotations and is often associated with conspiracy theories.[. Wikipedia. Sounds like trumps plan.
Exactly.
Well, as a dues-paying subscriber to Deep State Radio, I get the tongue-in-cheekiness of the name, but I don't think it would travel well in, say, Steve Bannon's circles.
WTF is going on at the NYT copy desk that writes these heds and with the editors that approve them?! This isn't journalistic impartiality, it is full-blown MAGA. Why are not the reporters on the staff not revolting against this? Because, to paraphrase the late Alan Sherman, this is pretty revolting itself.
I cancelled my subscription to The NY Times the day after the election and told them exactly why I was doing it. I was tired of the both sidesism and sane washing of Trump’s attempts at messaging. I had held that subscription for over 50 years and was done with them. They tried to offer me a discount and I said I did not trust them any longer and would not even keep the subscription for free. Did the same thing with the Washington Post.
Now I'm going to have "You Went the Wrong Way, Old King Louie" and "My Zelda" running through my head through the rest of the day . . .
Good satirical song knowledge, Susanna!
I'm OK on Allan Sherman. I'm *superb* on Tom Lehrer. <g>
Americans and our leaders allowed Reagan and others to label the public sector as mere "bureaucrats." It's time to reclaim terms like "public servants." When Reagan attacked government, we failed to defend it, unable to admit some inefficiencies while recognizing its value. Trump and MAGA have amplified this decades-long erosion, thriving on chaos and opposition hand-wringing. While some government employees may exemplify inefficiency, the majority are dedicated professionals serving the public good. Let’s counter this narrative by sharing on social media how we’ve benefited from public servants and publicly funded programs, showing the vital role they play in our lives. This also will require leaving our echo chambers.
Sounds like the American 'Cultural Revolution'
(get rid of anyone who knows what they're doing!)
I gave up on the NYT months ago and canceled my subscription to that paper as well as the WP. I call them corrupt media because they are owned by republican ultra-wealthy who are more interested in staying on Dump’s good side then reporting the TRUTH.
Who can we trust in the media now? What news sources can we read and trust? This is a serious question.
Schedule F doesn't lead to ALL civil service jobs switched to loyalists. Only to those with positions of a "confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character." The wonks who gather the data and review the test results for things like FDA approval will still be protected--but they are a facing a hard choice. Stay and comply with the idiocracy's commands or be brave.
All the NYT headline had to say was "Mythical Deep State" or even just "Alleged Deep State." But unlike what I hope the rank and file of civil servants can do, the NYT doesn't have "be brave" in its vocabulary. It's not going to help them when trump decides something the headline writers thought was safe actually offends him.
That headline, "Trump Takes on the Pillars of the 'Deep State'," was outrageous, even by the abysmally misleading standards of the NYT: it implies that Trump is taking on a noble mission to set things right by cleaning house, when the very opposite is true.
I guess the brief, bright spell before the election, when the paper appeared to have changed course and decided that democracy might be a good thing after all, is over. The NYT is evidently now back to genuflecting before Trump in order to curry favor. Shameful!
Claire, who can we really trust to get our news from now? I’m being serious.
Agree that the New York Times using the term , Deep State, in a headline is irresponsible & disturbing. It just gave credibility to Trump & Steve Bannon’s imaginary ‘ deep state’. Something that is purely a figment of their imagination. But they will use that manufactured term to viciously attack the non partisan federal election employees that keep America functioning smoothly.
I’m feeling so dejected! I just hope there are right minded folks in government who will fight against this tyranny and the gutting of all that is good about our country.
I was chastised a little bit by referring to the administrative state. The CORRECT way of interpreting this is the EXECUTIVE branch of gov. Executive branch administers & enforces laws. When all agencies & depts are abolished thru deregulation & privatization, public servants are replaced by loyalists who administer thru corruption. A dictatorship. is created. Ruth Ben-Ghiat describes this. HR2, passed by Ryan's House, intimated destruction of the Pendleton Ac,t, which created Civil Service System.
You should watch this series. Yes there is a deep state but far from what the conservatives think. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hNArLl765PXe8tsTKmOciGL&si=UP4YAo5RUIcCalZ_
The "deep state myth" .. are you really so far up your own butt that you cant recognize there are parts of the US government that wield real power outside the conventional checks and balances of the system? The two wealthiest counties in the US are both adjacent to DC and yet neither of these two regions produce anything. They suck off the teat of taxpayers. I, for one, hope Trump gets to burn these unaccountable power structures to the ground.
Contractors, consultants, and lobbyists not public servants. Yes, the DC area has a lot of businesses feeding off the government.
I wrote a similar post yesterday.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151790659?source=queue